A massive protest in San Francisco against the passing of CA Proposition 8 is being organized tomorrow Friday, November 7th starting at 5:30pm at The Civic Center and then marching down Market Street to Dolores Park.
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Events in other cities are being planned as well: San Jose (11/9), Los Angeles (11/8), Long Beach (11/7) & Salt Lake City (11/7)
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I'm not sure what marching to an area in SF that loves Obama and opposes prop 8 does, but OK. I'd say go out to Walnut Creek, San Ramon, Danville, Pleasanton (Home of McCain HQ), Central Valley or locally in SF head to Pac Heights, and the city version of these areas to really rile up people and hammer in the message that they're scared of change and weak human beings. I also believe in biting instead of barking so…
I hope that prop 8 will pass… it's about the meaning of words (remember 1984?) and not about the rights of gay couples, I'm ok with 'em. I like straight speaking more than political correctness.
They do know the election is over already, right?
bOOOO YES ON 8 !!!
I agree! We should be protesting at the Mormon Temple in Oakland!
I hope one of the three lawsuits that've been filed against Prop 8 actually succeeds.
Time to burn bags of shit on the steps of Mormon temples & KOC halls!
Lifestyles do not define a minority.
RIGHTS FOR SMOKERS!!!!!!!
oh and uhh…rapists…and NAMBLA!!!!
Funny thing is you need to protest at a lot of black churches. As a black person myself, with a Father who is Christian, I know first hand how core these religious beliefs are. I have arguments with my dad all the time over the Prejudice toward gays by the church. There is a strong anti-gay attitude that starts in the churches of black communities. The Presidential election brought out more black people then ever. Most of them voted for Prop 8. It's time to educate the people. Some like my father may never understand. But the younger people will.
Does everyone realize that there were only about 300,000 Mormon voters who may have voted for Prop 8 (the number could have been lower since the total Mormon population in CA is only 700,000 and their activation rate is about 40%). There were millions of others who voted for this bill.
Damnit people, you're screwing up my plans for today. What is protesting really going to solve here? Nothing. And before you go bashing me, I voted against Prop 8.
Why waste perfectly good fire on a bag of shit?
I'm In Palm Spings , I will be going to the protest here
Civil Rights are never won at the voting booth because the majority will always triumph over the minority. Keep fighting and don't give up. The battle isn't over yet and it won't stop until it's won. LGBT are not just going to go away, as much as Christians and Mormons would like to turn their blind eyes away and believe.
Why do you think of “gay” as a “lifestyle”? Do all you straight folks think of yourselves as having the same “lifestyle”? You and OJ Simpson and George Bush and Zsa Zsa Gabor? All have the same “lifestyle”? Gay and Lesbian are sexual orientations. And yes, gays and lesbians are a minority. We are a minority because we are not part of the majority.
KevinEvans and other Mormon-bashers — do you really think burning a bag of shit on anyone's front porch is going to change his mind? If a Mormon burned a bag of shit on your porch would you go try and change your vote on Prop 8 to a “yes”?
I understand your anger — I share it — but attacking people is not going to change their minds.
Marching in SF is like preaching to the choir. Most of us did vote NO on 8. However, its a good start and a good way to say its not over.
I know many people are angry, including myself. However, we should not be hating on anyone . . .then we are no better than they are.
We should be making a point about equal rights, not hate!!
Elia, “marriage” means lifelong loving commitment. Are you seriously suggesting that any of Zsa Zsa Gabor's nine marriages deserve the name, but not the 50-year partnership between Del Martin and Phyllis Lyon? Do you really think that a man and woman who reel half-plastered into a Las Vegas wedding chapel, get married by an Elvis impersonator, and are going to get divorced in a weekshould get to call themselves married, but not a pair of men who've been together through sickness and health, richer and poorer, better and worse for 30 years? Does that really make sense to you?
I've got nothing against genitals; I'm quite fond of my own and my wife's; but to make the difference between them the critical distinction between “marriage” and “some other union” seems ridiculous to me.
Tell that to the League of Women Voters. Women's suffrage was voted on by men. The Voting Rights Act was passed by a mostly-white Congress. It took a lot of pressure from outside, but in the end it came down to votes.
John Kelly:
My comment about “burning bags of shit on doorsteps” was meant as sarcastic metaphor referencing the antiquated prank as a call to action & taking it directly to instigators.
For example: repealing tax-exempt status. “IF a tax-exempt institution gives to a political campaign, they lose their exempt status for the year of that election.”
I said nothing about attacking people.
Next time I will avoid writing anything sarcastic & metaphorical so I don’t confuse you.
Since this obviously needs to be spelled out:
My comment about “burning bags of shit on doorsteps” was meant as sarcastic metaphor referencing the antiquated prank as a call to action & taking it directly to instigators.
For example: repealing tax-exempt status. “IF a tax-exempt institution gives to a political campaign, they lose their exempt status for the year of that election.”
I said nothing about attacking people or meant that any violent action be taken against anyone.
elia
As long as the state uses marriage as the term to describe the way benefits and rights are afforded legally to couples, all couples must be given equality. If you are alluding to the fact that you may just not like homosexuals, just say so, don't use marriage as a way of expressing hate.
Thank you. I am glad that you do not propose hate crimes against a group that simply has different ideas. You would not be happy if they even suggested that about your group, even if it were sarcastic and metaphorical. Those of you that are attacking people who vote yes on 8 are just as bad as how you are trying to portray them. It's time for tolerance to be both ways.
gay people are born that way. trust me, i worked for google and am attending northwestern university. what do you do?
based on false information funded by the mormons. many of these people were uneducated, too.
Is there more info on WHERE in San Jose its going to start and where? I'd love to take part.
It is amazing to me same rhetoric and misinformatin the supporters of Prop 8 have been brain washed with. It is like a preprogrammed message…at the end of the day this is completely about Civil Rights, I am gay and I do not want to get married, but the idea that I could if I wanted to is the basis of what this Country was founded, to take away the Civil rights of any tax paying citizens in this country is wrong. I say as gays yes protest protest protest, but we are also a group with the most disposable income….hit them all where it counts, take the revenue away….money talks and we have it, be it small or large we have it in more disposable quantities than most….
San Francisco and other progressive cities should stop issuing all marriage licenses until prop 8 is struck down.
I was at the protest last night and heard something about a protest at the Mormon temple and in Sacramento on Sunday do you have any information as to what time and where to assemble.
response to Elia…
why don’t you go back to Iran and make some bombs okay?
it is MY right as an American and Equality to Marry my partner making him my HUSBAND!!! we are NOT going to teach marriage or gay sex ed to kids in schools…get that SHIT out of your tiny little brains!!!! I just want to marry my partner Barry.. I love him.. and no STATE or GOD can tell me otherwise…’NO’ on 8 WILL WIN…history is cyclical…back in the 60s, a white could not marry a black…and now interracial marriage is WIDELY common… history repeats itself.. WE will have our day…If my partner gets cancer or gets hit by a car and is dying, i want rights to visit him in the hospital..i want to declare him on TAXES… I WANT MY RIGHTS!!! and your sorry Iranian looking ass HOPES prop 8 passes… it’s people like you i just want to T BAG!!!! you FÚCK WOD! if you think this is about religion and the BOND of marriage being a sacred UNION as you str8’s think, then why is DIVORCE at the HIGHEST RATE as it is!?!?!?! why do men/ women go out and sleep with each other and you hypocrites call marriage between a man and woman SO SACRED!?!?!? LOL until you can get monogamy right……..SHUT THE FÚCK UP and stay out of MY RIGHTS!!!!!!
It isn’t about rights. Domestic Partners have rights. Aren’t they almost identical? What they want is the mandated blessing of the masses who dare to believe in the word of God. It’s not my place to tell God he needs to keep up with the times. Or that he should think only of the gays, throw all else to the wind and twist all of reality to their way of thinking. It is far more than rights. They seek absolution within their lifestyle.
brian brian brian
yes indeed your shovel is as good as any body elses. Why I might even say that yours is better. Yours plugs into the wall and browns bread. Doesn’t that make your shovel a toaster?
When they tell a gay man that he can’t marry a crazy woman we will finally be facing discrimination. It has never been where anyone can get married to anything at anytime and call it married. Nor should it be. Now take your toaster go home and quit calling it a shovel. Since we know what a shovel is, I mean already having a definition for thousands of years and all. Calling something that is not a shovel a shovel, just confuses those of us who speak the language.
Guys there is a great LGBT civil rights organization called the Empowering Spirits Foundation. They are very creative in how they approach this hot topic issue of gay marriage, in that they engage in service oriented activities in communities typically opposed to equal rights to foster thought and change for LGBT equality.
A friend of mine told me about it and I thought it was a great, positive approach to the issue. We had so much fun at the last event and it was great to give back to the community. Plus it was great to converse with others on the other side of the table in a way that wasn’t confrontational.
Anyway, this can be such a heated issue and I thought this was a unique approach.
Let’s be honest here. YOUR rights are not more important that mine, regardless of your homophobia, fear, or religious beliefs. You CANNOT vote on the basic rights of other people.