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	<title>Comments on: The Flickrization of Yahoo</title>
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		<title>By: smallerdemon</title>
		<link>http://laughingsquid.com/the-flickrization-of-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-1630</link>
		<dc:creator>smallerdemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 17:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, well, yes, Yahoo! support is free, but I pay for my SBC DSL, and the intermixed Yahoo/SBC can often lead to support weirdness that I don&#039;t care for.  My Yahoo and SCB boxes are all combined now, which is NOT something I am happy about or ever wanted.  SBC DSL customers who pay for their service also must have a very different looking My Yahoo! page than non-paying regular customers.  All of the SCB/DSL stuff is now shoved to the top of the page and by SBC and Yahoo!&#039;s own admission, can not be altered (so much for customizing you My Yahoo! page).

The rampant inclusion of the Yahoo! Toolbar creeping into unpredictable ares of download is another thing I mentioned but I feel worth mentioning again simply because that it&#039;s only one step away from those spyware products that you agree to use when you agree to use a &quot;free&quot; piece of software.

I&#039;m not trying to be necessarily anti-yahoo here, as I do remember them from WAY back and I still use it for various things, but a few of the things they have done stand out as examples of very poor consideration of their actual users that they really crept over from the &quot;kind of ok but I can put up with this part of it&quot; camp to the &quot;ok, now this sucks&quot; camp.

Community is fine, and I applaud that part of their new approach, but everything yahoo has touched that once was good somehow becomes a part of their &quot;Oh, let&#039;s slowly roll this product into this other one and not let anyone opt out and enjoy or develop the stand alone product anymore.&quot; is awfully Microsoftian in nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, well, yes, Yahoo! support is free, but I pay for my SBC DSL, and the intermixed Yahoo/SBC can often lead to support weirdness that I don&#8217;t care for.  My Yahoo and SCB boxes are all combined now, which is NOT something I am happy about or ever wanted.  SBC DSL customers who pay for their service also must have a very different looking My Yahoo! page than non-paying regular customers.  All of the SCB/DSL stuff is now shoved to the top of the page and by SBC and Yahoo!&#8217;s own admission, can not be altered (so much for customizing you My Yahoo! page).</p>
<p>The rampant inclusion of the Yahoo! Toolbar creeping into unpredictable ares of download is another thing I mentioned but I feel worth mentioning again simply because that it&#8217;s only one step away from those spyware products that you agree to use when you agree to use a &#8220;free&#8221; piece of software.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to be necessarily anti-yahoo here, as I do remember them from WAY back and I still use it for various things, but a few of the things they have done stand out as examples of very poor consideration of their actual users that they really crept over from the &#8220;kind of ok but I can put up with this part of it&#8221; camp to the &#8220;ok, now this sucks&#8221; camp.</p>
<p>Community is fine, and I applaud that part of their new approach, but everything yahoo has touched that once was good somehow becomes a part of their &#8220;Oh, let&#8217;s slowly roll this product into this other one and not let anyone opt out and enjoy or develop the stand alone product anymore.&#8221; is awfully Microsoftian in nature.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Curious</title>
		<link>http://laughingsquid.com/the-flickrization-of-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-1616</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2006 01:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just thought that the pre Wired days of Man versus Technology was over. The tools of blogs + google is a combination that has revealed tons of government and corporate secrets to the people.  To hear google villified as a &quot;cold mechanistic approach&quot; dismisses so much of what we&#039;ve accomplished with brute force tools like google.  Google equals knowledge, and blogs equal analysis.  We&#039;ve never lived in such a transparent age.

None of this should take away from Yahoo, it&#039;s a fine set of tools.  But I don&#039;t want any thinking liberal to shy away from wonderfully powerful technology like google.  We need it to see what others would love to hide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just thought that the pre Wired days of Man versus Technology was over. The tools of blogs + google is a combination that has revealed tons of government and corporate secrets to the people.  To hear google villified as a &#8220;cold mechanistic approach&#8221; dismisses so much of what we&#8217;ve accomplished with brute force tools like google.  Google equals knowledge, and blogs equal analysis.  We&#8217;ve never lived in such a transparent age.</p>
<p>None of this should take away from Yahoo, it&#8217;s a fine set of tools.  But I don&#8217;t want any thinking liberal to shy away from wonderfully powerful technology like google.  We need it to see what others would love to hide.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Fourniadis</title>
		<link>http://laughingsquid.com/the-flickrization-of-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-1611</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Fourniadis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2005 18:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t complain about yahoo&#039;s tech support, it&#039;s free after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t complain about yahoo&#8217;s tech support, it&#8217;s free after all.</p>
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		<title>By: smallerdemon</title>
		<link>http://laughingsquid.com/the-flickrization-of-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-1606</link>
		<dc:creator>smallerdemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2005 01:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m stillin the Yahoo! Sucks camp myself.  Their lack of any remotely proper support for their services, their nasty toolbar&#039;s inclusion into Acrobat Reader, and their forece Yahooinization of SBC DSL customers are just a few of the missteps that all add up to avoiding yahoo as much as possible for me.  Not to mention the unbelievable arrogance and tunnel vision of their engineering/programming staff in various blogs really leaves me with a unpleasant aftertaste when I look back on some of the great innovations they initialized.

I am wondering how long before they buy MySpace, since MySpace&#039;s design is atrocious but it&#039;s got &quot;community&quot; going for it.  It seems like they would make a great match.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m stillin the Yahoo! Sucks camp myself.  Their lack of any remotely proper support for their services, their nasty toolbar&#8217;s inclusion into Acrobat Reader, and their forece Yahooinization of SBC DSL customers are just a few of the missteps that all add up to avoiding yahoo as much as possible for me.  Not to mention the unbelievable arrogance and tunnel vision of their engineering/programming staff in various blogs really leaves me with a unpleasant aftertaste when I look back on some of the great innovations they initialized.</p>
<p>I am wondering how long before they buy MySpace, since MySpace&#8217;s design is atrocious but it&#8217;s got &#8220;community&#8221; going for it.  It seems like they would make a great match.</p>
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		<title>By: Inoverts v. Extroverts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inoverts v. Extroverts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2005 19:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And Scott Beale over at Laughing Squid just noted an interesting Business 2.0 article explaining how Yahoo has moved &#8220;toward people and community, while Google is focused on science and machines.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And Scott Beale over at Laughing Squid just noted an interesting Business 2.0 article explaining how Yahoo has moved &#8220;toward people and community, while Google is focused on science and machines.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Curious</title>
		<link>http://laughingsquid.com/the-flickrization-of-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-1588</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2005 06:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So now it&#039;s Google bad, Yahoo good? I need to update my bumper stickers -- they&#039;re all from the Microsoft bad, Google good era.  But, of course, that was half a year ago...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So now it&#8217;s Google bad, Yahoo good? I need to update my bumper stickers &#8212; they&#8217;re all from the Microsoft bad, Google good era.  But, of course, that was half a year ago&#8230;</p>
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