Comments on: Overly Judgemental Internet Explorer 6 Splash Pages

By: Revan343

Revan343 — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:53:48 +0000

Or a virus that wrecks IE6 and forces an install of another browser. Of course we would still give them a choice on which browser, so long as it wasn’t a version of IE. XD

By: Anon

Anon — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:53:34 +0000

google chrome FTW.

By: Saquel

Saquel — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 00:11:52 +0000

I may not like IE6, but I still cater for it. Rarely do I find myself making a website now that doesn’t work in IE6 – I develop for IE6, and then it’s much easier to just tweak to suit anything above + Firefox. No float issues and such, all valid markup and working in all browsers. Maybe some people should just spend more time learning how to lay elements out and stop whining, and cater for that minority as well as it shows you don’t half-ass your work, just because you can’t be bothered.

By: Joseph

Joseph — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:36:41 +0000

I wouldn’t make these statements on even my own site or on any client’s site, but I think they’re hilarious. I am a web developer myself and HATE IE6. I’ve been fixing what IE6 breaks all week and am to the end of my rope with this browser. It’s 5 years old…let’s let it die. Why should we, web developers, have to program for it when such a small percentage of the population use IE6?

By: e

Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:41:52 +0000

IE6 is an incredibly insecure browser, and plenty of malware sites, etc., already exploit it. I don’t think most IE6 users know that (or possibly care). And IE6 viruses wouldn’t really affect bigger institutions that restore individual computers’ disks to a master image every night.

People who use it at home probably don’t know any better. And people who use it at work probably don’t need to access the few sites out there that are blatantly against IE6 (like this one).

By: e

Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:30:54 +0000

There’s no excuse for IE6. You have to draw the line somewhere, and designing a site for the latest two versions of IE, Firefox and Safari on Mac and PC takes enough time (and hardware) as is. Adding obscure Linux browsers (unless your main audience is Linux users) and IE6 (no matter who your audience is) puts constraints on design and usability AND increases the cost of the project exponentially due to troubleshooting.

IE6 is utterly antiquated and needs to die. And I love this guy’s punchy F.U. to the whole deal.

By: Dan Kuck-Alvarez

Dan Kuck-Alvarez — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:01:31 +0000

No, you design for the browsers used by each user you want. You assume every designer wants every user. That’s especially untrue in hobby-space.

By: bigbetterirish

bigbetterirish — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:17:14 +0000

yes, said by the guy rockin’ his beta max and cassette tapes. force change, don’t hand hold.

By: NOP

NOP — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:09:40 +0000

True, but there’s a limit. The web development world is trying to get it’s shit together for once. This active rejection should be encouraged for the overall health of the field.

By: Dermot

Dermot — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 21:23:30 +0000

Since when did <15% become the majority? I was under the impression that a majority was more than 50%!

By: Dermot

Dermot — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 21:18:50 +0000

Lee, I love you. You stated that very well. As for Patrick’s suggestion that some of us find a new “hobby”, maybe he should consider how much time he’s spending debugging and hacking together fixes for IE6.

If you think that those of us do that do this for a living should just buck up and deal with the users who refuse to upgrade, then you keep on catering to them. I’m sure that you’ll get plenty of customers who are completely backwards.

In the mean time, I’ll be laughing all the way to the bank while I safely ignore the >15% of users who refuse to upgrade.

For the few people that DO use IE6, I make sure that the sites I develop aren’t entirely broken – but I won’t spend more than a few minutes fixing it. If it’s a seriously broken website in IE6, i will just use a plain black and white page for them.

There is absolutely no point in continuing to support a browser that is no longer supported by the company that made it even. Seriously.

By: Shane CY

Shane CY — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 05:19:08 +0000

For reference.. i have used firefox extensively on ubuntu linux, windows vista ultimate, and windows xp pro. it makes ubuntu lag, crashes all the time on vista and just feels slow on xp. i suggest using google chrome.. it needs a little work on its js engine, (the “hide” button that shows up on everyones post in the news feed on facebook doesnt work) but it is SO fast. and you can resize any text boxes (like the very one im typing in right now.) how awesome is that? :D

By: Jason

Jason — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:25:08 +0000

Amen

By: sith_platypus

sith_platypus — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:16:42 +0000

and this is why mac is so good. it ships with safari. which is infinitely better than IE. it must be said though, i am publishing this comment from firefox because it’s simply the best.

By: johns hopkins kranti

johns hopkins kranti — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:48:29 +0000

LOL nice stuff, IE is awful. It’s like the Republican of internet browsers. It’s almost as if they don’t care about our internet experience!!!

By: Christian Russell

Christian Russell — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:04:08 +0000

Why would anyone use IE at all? The only reasons I can think of is ignorance or because an employer basically forces you to use it.

By: Travis Ballard

Travis Ballard — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:53:33 +0000

personally, ie6 is fussy about what it likes and what it does not like but if you’re any good at writing mark-up, the fixes are generally quite simple to get cross browser support of ie 6,7,8, firefox, safari and chrome. while i personally don’t care for ie6, the majority of people do still use it and therefore it should be accommodated by anyone who is serious and catering to a broad audience. if it’s a personal website or something then you can deny access to people who use ie6. but for a small business or similar where accessibility matters, it’s important.

By: Mahbub

Mahbub — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:41:18 +0000

Haha, Wish i could give more Cursing messages who are using IE. It took thousands of hrs of my life and still continuing to do so.

By: Ashent

Ashent — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:34:18 +0000

I browse the web using firefox, and when I encounter a site that does not play nice with firefox, and I absolutely need to use the site, I open ie6 to view it. I refuse to upgrade to even more broken versions of internet explorer, and I do not see why you feel the need to expect people to upgrade the most sturdy version of IE to mostly untested and broken software. So I guess I won’t view your sites.

By: Miquel

Miquel — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 07:26:50 +0000

I wonder if anybody has every run correlations to see how many people using IE6 actually translate in to sales. That would be interesting. If only a fraction of the people coming to your ecommerce site that used IE6 ended up completing a purchase, then it really justify giving those users a Blue Screen of Upgrade and be done with it.

For me, I have some projects that are for San Francisco shops where IE6 is not a worry, but making sure it works on a Mac is. For my main project, I have to have my site working in IE6 and even IE5.5 to some extent as it’s based in Africa and people really don’t have the latest and greatest browsers there. My little http://www.end6.org is horribly annoying to them as their connections are too slow to download an update.

-miquel