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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 03:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last time I ever witnessed a movement that had these qualifications: (1) a totally monolithic movement with a single point of view and a single authoritarian head; (2) replete with fanatical followers who are prepared and programmed to do anything their master says; (3) supplied by absolutely unlimited funds; (4) with a hatred of everyone on the outside; (5) with suspicion of parents, against their parents -- the last movement that had those qualifications was the Nazi youth movement, and I&#039;ll tell you, I&#039;m scared.
    -- Rabbi Maurice Davis, Youth, Brainwashing and the Extremist Cults</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last time I ever witnessed a movement that had these qualifications: (1) a totally monolithic movement with a single point of view and a single authoritarian head; (2) replete with fanatical followers who are prepared and programmed to do anything their master says; (3) supplied by absolutely unlimited funds; (4) with a hatred of everyone on the outside; (5) with suspicion of parents, against their parents &#8212; the last movement that had those qualifications was the Nazi youth movement, and I&#8217;ll tell you, I&#8217;m scared.<br />
    &#8212; Rabbi Maurice Davis, Youth, Brainwashing and the Extremist Cults</p>
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		<title>By: RONBOTHUNTER</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHAT IS THE SECRET THAT THE “ANTI-GOD CULT” CALLED “SCIENTOLGY” FEARS THE MOST FROM BEING EXPOSED?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The secret most un-exposed about Scientology is that is it an “applied physiological philosophy” rather than an “applied religious philosophy”. All Scientology courses, all auditing processes, and all the management and professional courses are based on physiological phenomenas, psychophysiology, emotions, human behavior patterns etc., that are our birth right and used in Scientology as their own discoveries. Even their PTS-SP data is based upon how a “Symptom” re-stimulation is brought out by physiological reactions of the mind affecting the body when under stress. They blame innocent human beings called by them “suppressive persons” for bringing out a symptom that was there to warn you of hidden real illnesses caused by non-suppressive sources such as parasites, chemicals, poisons, toxins, viruses and bacteria. The data on PTS-SP is twisted by them to blame innocent people in order to keep them in line.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The only way to fight them is to expose to the world--how Scientology has used physiological phenomenas as the basis for a false religion. How it has harmed families by claiming that innocent mothers and fathers are SPs -- when they lied about symptom re-stimulations to the world.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No where in Scientology will you find courses on any bible, there is no study or belief in heaven, hell, saints, angels, the devil, or even God himself. They do not study religion or even believe in religions. They do not share common values with any other religion. Their goal is to eliminate all other religions.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The E-meter reads your physiological reactions, the Ronbots never calls it that—they call it the “CHARGE” or the “MASS” or “ENGRAMS” OR “MENTAL IMAGE PICTURES” that you have in your brain—all meant to distract you from the truth.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Know this fact --- There is a law of Nature or law of God called “Physiological Reactions” that is the true secret behind Scientology’s Dianectic study technology.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;AUDITING ERASES AND LESSONS YOUR PHYSIOLOGICAL REACTIONS!!! Once they are gone – your symptoms can’t be re-stimulated by stress or arguments. This is NOT a good thing, because ALL doctors depend on symptoms to guide them in treating you! This is why they prohibit you from seeing the doctors of your choice!!! Understand now how the scam works? Now when you argue with your mother and don’t get sick – you think she was the cause of all your illnesses.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you were audited a hundred times (repeated) for a word that you were ordered to never clear or understand, and then made to read a page that contained that word—it would never again read on the Emeter or cause a physiological reaction.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;LRH discovered that when you passed a misunderstood word—you manifested many reactions of various types: Yawning, sleepiness, not there feeling, dizziness, blurry eyes, nervousness and dozens more.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Being the liar that he was, he claimed that physiological reactions which he now calls “Dianetics” was “‘his” invention and not a law of God; he hid the fact that it is our human inheritance since time began.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Granted that his power of obnosis (observation) was the best in the world, his crime against humanity was to make a “religion” based upon the falsehood, that it was his invention or creation and not a law of God belonging to all Humanity as their lawful right.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For proof that the Cult has lied to you: -- Google “L. Ron Hubbard and Physiological Reactions” or visit their own Godless websites:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.studytechnology.org/10-barr.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.studytechnology.org/10-barr.htm&lt;/a&gt; or   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lronhubbardstudytech.asn.au/10-barr.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.lronhubbardstudytech.asn.au/10-barr.htm&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.studytech.org/study_tech3.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.studytech.org/study_tech3.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.effective-education.org/pg003.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.effective-education.org/pg003.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;LRH used God’s Natural laws to make slaves of mankind!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“So long as a physiological phenomenon remains the knowledge of a few and is denied to the many it can be utilized to control the many.”  LRH  (from Journal of Scientology Issue 4-G from Oct. 1952)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“This universe has long been looking for new ways to make slaves. Well, we&#039;ve got some new ways to make slaves here.”  LRH (from PDC tape lecture #20 “Formative State of Scientology, Definition of Logic”, given on 6 Dec 52) &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;All men shall be my slaves!  LRH&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All women shall submit to my charms!  LRH&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All mankind shall grovel at my feet and not know why!&quot; [L. Ron Hubbard, &quot;Affirmations&quot;, late 1940s] Affirmations, exhibits 500-4D, E, F &amp; G. See Church of Scientology v Armstrong, transcript volume 11, p.1886.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Somebody some day will say &#039;this is illegal&#039;.&lt;br&gt;By then be sure the orgs say what is legal or not.&quot;&lt;br&gt;L. Ron Hubbard, HCOPL 4 January 1966&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM”. You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control anybody is to lie to them.&quot;  - L. Ron Hubbard, &quot;Off the Time Track,&quot; lecture of June 1952, excerpted in JOURNAL OF SCIENTOLOGY issue 18-G, reprinted in TECHNICAL VOLUMES OF DIANETICS &amp; SCIENTOLOGY, vol. 1, p. 418&lt;br&gt;&quot;Scientology...is not a religion.&quot;  - L. Ron Hubbard, CREATION OF HUMAN ABILITY, 1954, p. 251&lt;br&gt;All living beings have physiological (The functions and activities of life or of living matter such as the organic processes of organs, tissues, or cells) phenomenas (observable reactions known through the senses rather than by thought or intuition), or physical manifestations (made evident by showing or displaying) or physical reactions, that we see or feel as symptoms, and they are external and/or internal or visible signs or warnings given to us, by our creator to help us survive, help us increase our potential, our knowledge and our health.&lt;br&gt;All life on Earth has these cause and effect reactions called physiological phenomenas. All living beings whether they are plant, insect, retile or animal or human could not live without these reactions. They influence the body’s and the mind’s reactions to any form of stimuli, and have an influence on every cell of the body and mind. &lt;br&gt; [Noun. Physiological reaction – Is an automatic instinctive unlearned reaction to a stimulus.]&lt;br&gt;[Examples of physiological reactions:  inborn reflex, innate reflex, instinctive reflex, reflex response, unconditioned reflex, accommodation reflex, Babinski reflex, belching, headache, migraines, swelling, sweating, erections, blinking, blushing, burping, defecation reflex, disgorgement, involuntary eye blinking, farting, skin flush, gag reflex, goose bump, goose pimple, gooseflesh, involuntary gulping, involuntary hiccup, knee-jerk reflex, light reflex, puking, papillary reflex, rectal reflex, regurgitation, shaking, shiver, shock, sneezing, startle, stretch reflex, suckling reflex, trembling, upset stomach, vomiting, involuntary winking, yawn, yawning -- plus hundreds more.] &lt;br&gt;Ron studied Physiological reactions more than most scientists and applied it to invent a new Religion.&lt;br&gt;He did not invent but copied the laws of nature and scammed the whole world into thinking that he alone discovered these reactions and no one else did. What he did do - was noticed the reactions of students and from this scam invented Dianetics “study tech”.&lt;br&gt;Examples of Physiological reactions of the body and mind when reading:&lt;br&gt;Falling asleep while reading - yawning, confusion, feeling blank, feeling anxious, not there feeling, tearing eyes, eyes going out of focus, dizziness, reeling, rebelliousness, headaches, skipping words, feeling nauseous, fidgeting, jumpy while reading, can’t stay still, mispronouncing words, feeling as if you are squashed, feeling as if you are over-whelmed, twitching, can’t apply what you are reading, can’t understand what you are reading, etc. are all due to physiological reactions when you read misunderstood words or misunderstood definitions.  &lt;br&gt; To understand the secrets of your enemy –is to know exactly where to hurt him.&lt;br&gt;Scientology’s copyrighted files on based upon the laws of Nature and laws of God; they are in violation of copyrights and patent rights. Therefore, the contents or subjects can be used by anyone and can be talked about without fear of any lawsuit.&lt;br&gt;Everything you do produces a reaction in your body and mind. Every time you read, eat, sleep, rest, run, etc. produces a reaction. &lt;br&gt;To tell your mother that you invented a new religion, because you discovered why you farted, is a good example of the scam that Ron pulled on you. He got away with it because the world did not see these reactions as they applied to reading. Or if some scientist saw and knew it—he did not protest it and allowed a Cult to claim it as their own new discovery.&lt;br&gt;If you want to destroy the cult, study your own reactions each time you do something—learn to read yourself and use your own power of obnosis to discover the real world within you.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yours truly&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;RonbotHunter&lt;br&gt;All Rights Reserved.&lt;br&gt;		&lt;br&gt;Copyright     Ronbothunter--- All Rights Reserved, Without Prejudice UCC 1-308 &amp; 1-103.6 including rights under the UCC and common law remedies. I reserve my right not to be compelled to perform under any contract or commercial agreement that I did not personally sign and enter knowingly, voluntarily and intentionally and especially if I was not given full disclosure. I do not accept the liability of the compelled benefit of any unrevealed contract or commercial agreement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHAT IS THE SECRET THAT THE “ANTI-GOD CULT” CALLED “SCIENTOLGY” FEARS THE MOST FROM BEING EXPOSED?</p>
<p>The secret most un-exposed about Scientology is that is it an “applied physiological philosophy” rather than an “applied religious philosophy”. All Scientology courses, all auditing processes, and all the management and professional courses are based on physiological phenomenas, psychophysiology, emotions, human behavior patterns etc., that are our birth right and used in Scientology as their own discoveries. Even their PTS-SP data is based upon how a “Symptom” re-stimulation is brought out by physiological reactions of the mind affecting the body when under stress. They blame innocent human beings called by them “suppressive persons” for bringing out a symptom that was there to warn you of hidden real illnesses caused by non-suppressive sources such as parasites, chemicals, poisons, toxins, viruses and bacteria. The data on PTS-SP is twisted by them to blame innocent people in order to keep them in line.</p>
<p>The only way to fight them is to expose to the world&#8211;how Scientology has used physiological phenomenas as the basis for a false religion. How it has harmed families by claiming that innocent mothers and fathers are SPs &#8212; when they lied about symptom re-stimulations to the world.</p>
<p>No where in Scientology will you find courses on any bible, there is no study or belief in heaven, hell, saints, angels, the devil, or even God himself. They do not study religion or even believe in religions. They do not share common values with any other religion. Their goal is to eliminate all other religions.</p>
<p>The E-meter reads your physiological reactions, the Ronbots never calls it that—they call it the “CHARGE” or the “MASS” or “ENGRAMS” OR “MENTAL IMAGE PICTURES” that you have in your brain—all meant to distract you from the truth.</p>
<p>Know this fact &#8212; There is a law of Nature or law of God called “Physiological Reactions” that is the true secret behind Scientology’s Dianectic study technology.</p>
<p>AUDITING ERASES AND LESSONS YOUR PHYSIOLOGICAL REACTIONS!!! Once they are gone – your symptoms can’t be re-stimulated by stress or arguments. This is NOT a good thing, because ALL doctors depend on symptoms to guide them in treating you! This is why they prohibit you from seeing the doctors of your choice!!! Understand now how the scam works? Now when you argue with your mother and don’t get sick – you think she was the cause of all your illnesses.</p>
<p>If you were audited a hundred times (repeated) for a word that you were ordered to never clear or understand, and then made to read a page that contained that word—it would never again read on the Emeter or cause a physiological reaction.</p>
<p>LRH discovered that when you passed a misunderstood word—you manifested many reactions of various types: Yawning, sleepiness, not there feeling, dizziness, blurry eyes, nervousness and dozens more.</p>
<p>Being the liar that he was, he claimed that physiological reactions which he now calls “Dianetics” was “‘his” invention and not a law of God; he hid the fact that it is our human inheritance since time began.</p>
<p>Granted that his power of obnosis (observation) was the best in the world, his crime against humanity was to make a “religion” based upon the falsehood, that it was his invention or creation and not a law of God belonging to all Humanity as their lawful right.</p>
<p>For proof that the Cult has lied to you: &#8212; Google “L. Ron Hubbard and Physiological Reactions” or visit their own Godless websites:<br /><a href="http://www.studytechnology.org/10-barr.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.studytechnology.org/10-barr.htm</a> or   <a href="http://www.lronhubbardstudytech.asn.au/10-barr.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.lronhubbardstudytech.asn.au/10-barr.htm</a>  <a href="http://www.studytech.org/study_tech3.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.studytech.org/study_tech3.php</a><br /><a href="http://www.effective-education.org/pg003.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.effective-education.org/pg003.html</a></p>
<p>LRH used God’s Natural laws to make slaves of mankind!</p>
<p>“So long as a physiological phenomenon remains the knowledge of a few and is denied to the many it can be utilized to control the many.”  LRH  (from Journal of Scientology Issue 4-G from Oct. 1952)</p>
<p>“This universe has long been looking for new ways to make slaves. Well, we&#39;ve got some new ways to make slaves here.”  LRH (from PDC tape lecture #20 “Formative State of Scientology, Definition of Logic”, given on 6 Dec 52) </p>
<p>&#8220;All men shall be my slaves!  LRH</p>
<p>All women shall submit to my charms!  LRH</p>
<p>All mankind shall grovel at my feet and not know why!&#8221; [L. Ron Hubbard, "Affirmations", late 1940s] Affirmations, exhibits 500-4D, E, F &#038; G. See Church of Scientology v Armstrong, transcript volume 11, p.1886.</p>
<p>&#8220;Somebody some day will say &#39;this is illegal&#39;.<br />By then be sure the orgs say what is legal or not.&#8221;<br />L. Ron Hubbard, HCOPL 4 January 1966</p>
<p>&#8220;THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM”. You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control anybody is to lie to them.&#8221;  &#8211; L. Ron Hubbard, &#8220;Off the Time Track,&#8221; lecture of June 1952, excerpted in JOURNAL OF SCIENTOLOGY issue 18-G, reprinted in TECHNICAL VOLUMES OF DIANETICS &#038; SCIENTOLOGY, vol. 1, p. 418<br />&#8220;Scientology&#8230;is not a religion.&#8221;  &#8211; L. Ron Hubbard, CREATION OF HUMAN ABILITY, 1954, p. 251<br />All living beings have physiological (The functions and activities of life or of living matter such as the organic processes of organs, tissues, or cells) phenomenas (observable reactions known through the senses rather than by thought or intuition), or physical manifestations (made evident by showing or displaying) or physical reactions, that we see or feel as symptoms, and they are external and/or internal or visible signs or warnings given to us, by our creator to help us survive, help us increase our potential, our knowledge and our health.<br />All life on Earth has these cause and effect reactions called physiological phenomenas. All living beings whether they are plant, insect, retile or animal or human could not live without these reactions. They influence the body’s and the mind’s reactions to any form of stimuli, and have an influence on every cell of the body and mind. <br /> [Noun. Physiological reaction – Is an automatic instinctive unlearned reaction to a stimulus.]<br />[Examples of physiological reactions:  inborn reflex, innate reflex, instinctive reflex, reflex response, unconditioned reflex, accommodation reflex, Babinski reflex, belching, headache, migraines, swelling, sweating, erections, blinking, blushing, burping, defecation reflex, disgorgement, involuntary eye blinking, farting, skin flush, gag reflex, goose bump, goose pimple, gooseflesh, involuntary gulping, involuntary hiccup, knee-jerk reflex, light reflex, puking, papillary reflex, rectal reflex, regurgitation, shaking, shiver, shock, sneezing, startle, stretch reflex, suckling reflex, trembling, upset stomach, vomiting, involuntary winking, yawn, yawning -- plus hundreds more.] <br />Ron studied Physiological reactions more than most scientists and applied it to invent a new Religion.<br />He did not invent but copied the laws of nature and scammed the whole world into thinking that he alone discovered these reactions and no one else did. What he did do &#8211; was noticed the reactions of students and from this scam invented Dianetics “study tech”.<br />Examples of Physiological reactions of the body and mind when reading:<br />Falling asleep while reading &#8211; yawning, confusion, feeling blank, feeling anxious, not there feeling, tearing eyes, eyes going out of focus, dizziness, reeling, rebelliousness, headaches, skipping words, feeling nauseous, fidgeting, jumpy while reading, can’t stay still, mispronouncing words, feeling as if you are squashed, feeling as if you are over-whelmed, twitching, can’t apply what you are reading, can’t understand what you are reading, etc. are all due to physiological reactions when you read misunderstood words or misunderstood definitions.  <br /> To understand the secrets of your enemy –is to know exactly where to hurt him.<br />Scientology’s copyrighted files on based upon the laws of Nature and laws of God; they are in violation of copyrights and patent rights. Therefore, the contents or subjects can be used by anyone and can be talked about without fear of any lawsuit.<br />Everything you do produces a reaction in your body and mind. Every time you read, eat, sleep, rest, run, etc. produces a reaction. <br />To tell your mother that you invented a new religion, because you discovered why you farted, is a good example of the scam that Ron pulled on you. He got away with it because the world did not see these reactions as they applied to reading. Or if some scientist saw and knew it—he did not protest it and allowed a Cult to claim it as their own new discovery.<br />If you want to destroy the cult, study your own reactions each time you do something—learn to read yourself and use your own power of obnosis to discover the real world within you.</p>
<p>Yours truly</p>
<p>RonbotHunter<br />All Rights Reserved.</p>
<p>Copyright     Ronbothunter&#8212; All Rights Reserved, Without Prejudice UCC 1-308 &#038; 1-103.6 including rights under the UCC and common law remedies. I reserve my right not to be compelled to perform under any contract or commercial agreement that I did not personally sign and enter knowingly, voluntarily and intentionally and especially if I was not given full disclosure. I do not accept the liability of the compelled benefit of any unrevealed contract or commercial agreement.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;By the way, every Scientologist Iâ€™ve asked about Xenu (higher lever or not) has no idea what people are talking about when they say that. That is a good example of something 100% fabricated then ascribed.&quot; -Benji

And if they did know.. they would not tell you. they learn information in the &quot;church&quot; then do not tell outsiders until they pay and join.


And no. The protests are not &quot;they would stand in from of a CHURCH and yell â€œwe hate you!â€&quot; 

The protests for the most part (with exception of individuals) are made up of pretty well informed people who are not yelling &quot;we hate you&quot; but informing as many people as they can through fliers and signs.

protesters do not resort to violence, and they are not religious bigots. The protests are peaceful and upbeat with music and delicious cake. Yet those who protest have been followed after the protest by scientologists and harassed. Which is why they wear masks, for if scientologists were to find out their identity they would be harassed, threatened, and spam phone called under the &quot;fair game&quot; Policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;By the way, every Scientologist Iâ€™ve asked about Xenu (higher lever or not) has no idea what people are talking about when they say that. That is a good example of something 100% fabricated then ascribed.&#8221; -Benji</p>
<p>And if they did know.. they would not tell you. they learn information in the &#8220;church&#8221; then do not tell outsiders until they pay and join.</p>
<p>And no. The protests are not &#8220;they would stand in from of a CHURCH and yell â€œwe hate you!â€&#8221; </p>
<p>The protests for the most part (with exception of individuals) are made up of pretty well informed people who are not yelling &#8220;we hate you&#8221; but informing as many people as they can through fliers and signs.</p>
<p>protesters do not resort to violence, and they are not religious bigots. The protests are peaceful and upbeat with music and delicious cake. Yet those who protest have been followed after the protest by scientologists and harassed. Which is why they wear masks, for if scientologists were to find out their identity they would be harassed, threatened, and spam phone called under the &#8220;fair game&#8221; Policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iâ€™m a new critic of Scientology. Itâ€™s criminal organization that won its status as a religion by coercion and blackmail of public officials. L. Ron Hubbard was a con man and David Miscavige is a megalomaniacal tyrant. Germany is right in barring them from their country. We need to do the same thing here. Revoke Co$ tax privileges now. Xenu isn&#039;t real</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iâ€™m a new critic of Scientology. Itâ€™s criminal organization that won its status as a religion by coercion and blackmail of public officials. L. Ron Hubbard was a con man and David Miscavige is a megalomaniacal tyrant. Germany is right in barring them from their country. We need to do the same thing here. Revoke Co$ tax privileges now. Xenu isn&#8217;t real</p>
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		<title>By: AnonymousAleph</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnonymousAleph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 13:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s Lawrence Wollersheim in the SF interview. Too bad the interviewer is clueless as to who he is. lurk moar mebe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s Lawrence Wollersheim in the SF interview. Too bad the interviewer is clueless as to who he is. lurk moar mebe</p>
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		<title>By: Avid Reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avid Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ideas are just that -- ideas. And behavior is just that -- behavior. Society has a right and an obligation to criticize ideas because ideas lead to human behavior. It is dangerous, not to mention ridiculous, to characterize protest and criticism as bigotry when the arguments are reasoned, and those protesters refrain from ad hominem attacks. The Anonymous movement is a legitimate exercise of the rights given to individuals in a democratic society, and mischaracterizing them as some sort of hate speech is a transparent attempt to shut down debate.

First Amendment, people. Read it, internalize it, and read the philosophies behind it. (Enlightenment, anyone? John Locke? Founding fathers? They were rabblerousers, too, and look at the gift they&#039;ve given us.) Don&#039;t throw away our freedom to speak by succumbing to shallow accusations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ideas are just that &#8212; ideas. And behavior is just that &#8212; behavior. Society has a right and an obligation to criticize ideas because ideas lead to human behavior. It is dangerous, not to mention ridiculous, to characterize protest and criticism as bigotry when the arguments are reasoned, and those protesters refrain from ad hominem attacks. The Anonymous movement is a legitimate exercise of the rights given to individuals in a democratic society, and mischaracterizing them as some sort of hate speech is a transparent attempt to shut down debate.</p>
<p>First Amendment, people. Read it, internalize it, and read the philosophies behind it. (Enlightenment, anyone? John Locke? Founding fathers? They were rabblerousers, too, and look at the gift they&#8217;ve given us.) Don&#8217;t throw away our freedom to speak by succumbing to shallow accusations.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Gibson</title>
		<link>http://laughingsquid.com/anonymous-vs-church-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-524955</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Gibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first two you tube clips have been removed.

The Scientologists have used legal, and extra legal, means to silence their critics.  Free speech is a lot more important to me than tolerance.</description>
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<p>The Scientologists have used legal, and extra legal, means to silence their critics.  Free speech is a lot more important to me than tolerance.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymouse</title>
		<link>http://laughingsquid.com/anonymous-vs-church-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-524954</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benji writes, &quot;Most everything you say before â€œâ€¦need I go on?â€ is made up fables circulated on the internet. The people you speak of dying, the operations you say were conducted, quotes you use that exist in no book ever published or documented (and if they are they are taken out of context the same way interviews are edited to skew perspectives), they are just fabricated.&quot;

This proves beyond a doubt you are just trolling.  End of thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benji writes, &#8220;Most everything you say before â€œâ€¦need I go on?â€ is made up fables circulated on the internet. The people you speak of dying, the operations you say were conducted, quotes you use that exist in no book ever published or documented (and if they are they are taken out of context the same way interviews are edited to skew perspectives), they are just fabricated.&#8221;</p>
<p>This proves beyond a doubt you are just trolling.  End of thread.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://laughingsquid.com/anonymous-vs-church-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-524945</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; By the way, every Scientologist Iâ€™ve asked about Xenu (higher lever or not) has no idea what people are talking about when they say that. That is a good example of something 100% fabricated then ascribed.

They believe that knowing about it will kill them. These documents are verified in court as evidence. Scientology is not a religion, as all of them who dragged in crosses in 1969 entirely to convince the IRS to make them tax-exempt know perfectly well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; By the way, every Scientologist Iâ€™ve asked about Xenu (higher lever or not) has no idea what people are talking about when they say that. That is a good example of something 100% fabricated then ascribed.</p>
<p>They believe that knowing about it will kill them. These documents are verified in court as evidence. Scientology is not a religion, as all of them who dragged in crosses in 1969 entirely to convince the IRS to make them tax-exempt know perfectly well.</p>
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		<title>By: Benji</title>
		<link>http://laughingsquid.com/anonymous-vs-church-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-524944</link>
		<dc:creator>Benji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that the line about not posting as Anonymous was removed, but honestly, I consider it cowardly not to post with your name, you want to talk about brainwashing, look at your group, all with the same identity and blindly following the same ideology.

I wouldn&#039;t go as far as to call Anonymous terrorism, I don&#039;t think it is, but technically unless someone claims the white powder being sent to churches it was sent by Anonymous, that&#039;s the whole point of your group.

Most everything you say before &quot;...need I go on?&quot; is made up fables circulated on the internet. The people you speak of dying, the operations you say were conducted, quotes you use that exist in no book ever published or documented (and if they are they are taken out of context the same way interviews are edited to skew perspectives), they are just fabricated. Maybe the internet has become such a large part of people&#039;s lives that they don&#039;t know much else, but there are such things as actual (paper) court transcripts, books in libraries, and the Scientology books themselves.

By the way, every Scientologist I&#039;ve asked about Xenu (higher lever or not) has no idea what people are talking about when they say that. That is a good example of something 100% fabricated then ascribed. 

I don&#039;t know how this many people can be duped into being filled with this much hate, to the point where they would stand in from of a CHURCH and yell &quot;we hate you!&quot;, but honestly it needs to stop, it&#039;s just ridiculous. If you have a problem with the ethics of an organization go through the proper government channels.

When I go out, and talk to people about Scientology, they either say they know nothing, they know Scientologist and like them, or they hate Scientology and every reason they do comes form some forum or Wikipedia article. This is dumbing down the country, if you&#039;re going to attack a religion, and it&#039;s people then at least be able to put together more solid facts than what would be required for a 4th-grade research paper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that the line about not posting as Anonymous was removed, but honestly, I consider it cowardly not to post with your name, you want to talk about brainwashing, look at your group, all with the same identity and blindly following the same ideology.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t go as far as to call Anonymous terrorism, I don&#8217;t think it is, but technically unless someone claims the white powder being sent to churches it was sent by Anonymous, that&#8217;s the whole point of your group.</p>
<p>Most everything you say before &#8220;&#8230;need I go on?&#8221; is made up fables circulated on the internet. The people you speak of dying, the operations you say were conducted, quotes you use that exist in no book ever published or documented (and if they are they are taken out of context the same way interviews are edited to skew perspectives), they are just fabricated. Maybe the internet has become such a large part of people&#8217;s lives that they don&#8217;t know much else, but there are such things as actual (paper) court transcripts, books in libraries, and the Scientology books themselves.</p>
<p>By the way, every Scientologist I&#8217;ve asked about Xenu (higher lever or not) has no idea what people are talking about when they say that. That is a good example of something 100% fabricated then ascribed. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how this many people can be duped into being filled with this much hate, to the point where they would stand in from of a CHURCH and yell &#8220;we hate you!&#8221;, but honestly it needs to stop, it&#8217;s just ridiculous. If you have a problem with the ethics of an organization go through the proper government channels.</p>
<p>When I go out, and talk to people about Scientology, they either say they know nothing, they know Scientologist and like them, or they hate Scientology and every reason they do comes form some forum or Wikipedia article. This is dumbing down the country, if you&#8217;re going to attack a religion, and it&#8217;s people then at least be able to put together more solid facts than what would be required for a 4th-grade research paper.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://laughingsquid.com/anonymous-vs-church-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-524939</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous  has moved from blustering online to actual terrorism.  While they deny all responsibility for anything - there remains the fact that envelopes containing white powder showed up at 23 Scientology churches in California a week ago, prompting Homeland Security to investigate.  

When you encourage hatred on sites like this, that&#039;s what you are encouraging.  

If they continue escalating their religious bigotry against Scientologists, how long will it be before they start burning crosses on lawns?  

A hate group is a hate group is a hate group. 

Grow a conscience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous  has moved from blustering online to actual terrorism.  While they deny all responsibility for anything &#8211; there remains the fact that envelopes containing white powder showed up at 23 Scientology churches in California a week ago, prompting Homeland Security to investigate.  </p>
<p>When you encourage hatred on sites like this, that&#8217;s what you are encouraging.  </p>
<p>If they continue escalating their religious bigotry against Scientologists, how long will it be before they start burning crosses on lawns?  </p>
<p>A hate group is a hate group is a hate group. </p>
<p>Grow a conscience.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymouse</title>
		<link>http://laughingsquid.com/anonymous-vs-church-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-524931</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benji writes: &quot;Firstly the majority of the participants base their arguments on unverified claims that have been circulated on the internet for some time&quot;...

...and which Scientology has been trying to wipe from the face of the Internet, spending millions of dollars in its attempt to do so.  That verifies the information quite nicely to the eyes of many readers.

And what information is this?  Harassment (Operation Freakout), legal threats, lawsuits intended to bankrupt Scientology&#039;s targets (&quot;The purpose of the lawsuit is not to win, but to harass&quot;), censorship (Google, the Penet remailer, the Internet Archive, Slashdot, XS4ALL, and many many more), lives ruined because people dared to speak out against Scientology (Keith Henson being one of many), people dead from mistreatment and suicide because of Scientology (Lisa McPherson, Noah Lottick, Philip Gale, and many others), Scientology&#039;s lying to its own followers about practically everything (Scientology being &quot;compatible with Christianity&quot; when Hubbard declared, &quot;...the man on the cross, there was no Christ&quot;), infiltration of government agencies and offices (Operation Snow White), crackpot science that endangers the lives of its practitioners (Narconon), the repeated pronouncements that every single person who ever says anything at all negative about Scientology is full of hate, a bigot, a criminal, a pervert...

...need I go on?

This has been going on the Internet for 15 years now, and Anonymous has demonstrated that despite Scientology&#039;s best efforts to portray itself as an innocent &quot;religion,&quot; the truth has long since been revealed.  And it is getting stronger every day.  Ten years ago, would anyone have thought that a protest against Scientology could bring nearly ten thousand people into the streets worldwide?  Scientology is a laughing stock, and eveything it says (&quot;our critics are committing hate crimes!&quot;) and does (&quot;Psychiatry: An Industry of Death&quot;) are being laughed at exposed for the sham they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benji writes: &#8220;Firstly the majority of the participants base their arguments on unverified claims that have been circulated on the internet for some time&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and which Scientology has been trying to wipe from the face of the Internet, spending millions of dollars in its attempt to do so.  That verifies the information quite nicely to the eyes of many readers.</p>
<p>And what information is this?  Harassment (Operation Freakout), legal threats, lawsuits intended to bankrupt Scientology&#8217;s targets (&#8221;The purpose of the lawsuit is not to win, but to harass&#8221;), censorship (Google, the Penet remailer, the Internet Archive, Slashdot, XS4ALL, and many many more), lives ruined because people dared to speak out against Scientology (Keith Henson being one of many), people dead from mistreatment and suicide because of Scientology (Lisa McPherson, Noah Lottick, Philip Gale, and many others), Scientology&#8217;s lying to its own followers about practically everything (Scientology being &#8220;compatible with Christianity&#8221; when Hubbard declared, &#8220;&#8230;the man on the cross, there was no Christ&#8221;), infiltration of government agencies and offices (Operation Snow White), crackpot science that endangers the lives of its practitioners (Narconon), the repeated pronouncements that every single person who ever says anything at all negative about Scientology is full of hate, a bigot, a criminal, a pervert&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;need I go on?</p>
<p>This has been going on the Internet for 15 years now, and Anonymous has demonstrated that despite Scientology&#8217;s best efforts to portray itself as an innocent &#8220;religion,&#8221; the truth has long since been revealed.  And it is getting stronger every day.  Ten years ago, would anyone have thought that a protest against Scientology could bring nearly ten thousand people into the streets worldwide?  Scientology is a laughing stock, and eveything it says (&#8221;our critics are committing hate crimes!&#8221;) and does (&#8221;Psychiatry: An Industry of Death&#8221;) are being laughed at exposed for the sham they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://laughingsquid.com/anonymous-vs-church-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-524927</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 04:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The philosophy and religion of scientology is as far from the official church (consisting of the private non profit company called Church of spiritual Technology, the Religious Technology Center and the Church of Scientology International) as it is possible to get and still be on the same planet.

When Hubbard was alive the church did indeed practice scientology and expanded and helped many people to become more aware as beings.  The philosophy was promoted and people were welcomed into the church.  Families and family life was promoted and the cost of the services were reasonable.

After his death, however, a new regime took over (evidence available upon request) and all that changed. The  emphasis became, money, dedication to the exclusion of all else and a paranoiac obsession that anyone not with the church was against it.  Church members were not allowed to look at the internet or anything the church management deemed contrary to church  (not philosophic) doctrine.  

Many of the original followers that assisted Hubbard with his research were booted out.  Script and books were changed and a very effective 1984 job was done on the literature. 

Even the wife of Hubbard, a tireless supporter, has become persona non gratis with the church.

The philosophy of scientology is not practiced in the church.  The church is a vehicle for making money, not for &quot;spreading the word&quot;.

It is a misnomer to say that that the church practices scientology because it does not anymore.

The only scientology you will find is practiced outside the church in the Scientology Freezone.

Most of the current critics are critical of the church, not the philosophy, much of which they are probably unaware.  But what is of concern is that many critics, and the fellow in the street does not have a clue about what scientology is.  All one gets is rhetoric and a diatribe of, &quot;its bad&quot;, &quot;Scientology kills people&quot; or &quot;scientologists eat babies&quot; and other such claptrap. No, the church may participate in dubious activities but certainly any self respecting scientologist does not and scientology does not kill anyone.  The bald ignorant statements of, &quot;they be all bad over there&quot; is not a sound approach for adjudicating the merits or otherwise of any philosophy

How many people know what the ARC triangle represents, or what is a stable datum or what the eight dynamics are and they would not have a clue. How many people actually know what scientology is? Not very many! They do not even know the basics of real scientology. 

But their criticism of the church is very different and very understandable.  In the eye&#039;s of the freezone scientologist,  the church has committed the ultimate crime of suppressing the philosophy and, instead, imposed an authoritarian dictatorship totally at variance with the original philosophy.

THAT is why it is attacked so much.  Unfortunately the baby often gets thrown out with the bath water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The philosophy and religion of scientology is as far from the official church (consisting of the private non profit company called Church of spiritual Technology, the Religious Technology Center and the Church of Scientology International) as it is possible to get and still be on the same planet.</p>
<p>When Hubbard was alive the church did indeed practice scientology and expanded and helped many people to become more aware as beings.  The philosophy was promoted and people were welcomed into the church.  Families and family life was promoted and the cost of the services were reasonable.</p>
<p>After his death, however, a new regime took over (evidence available upon request) and all that changed. The  emphasis became, money, dedication to the exclusion of all else and a paranoiac obsession that anyone not with the church was against it.  Church members were not allowed to look at the internet or anything the church management deemed contrary to church  (not philosophic) doctrine.  </p>
<p>Many of the original followers that assisted Hubbard with his research were booted out.  Script and books were changed and a very effective 1984 job was done on the literature. </p>
<p>Even the wife of Hubbard, a tireless supporter, has become persona non gratis with the church.</p>
<p>The philosophy of scientology is not practiced in the church.  The church is a vehicle for making money, not for &#8220;spreading the word&#8221;.</p>
<p>It is a misnomer to say that that the church practices scientology because it does not anymore.</p>
<p>The only scientology you will find is practiced outside the church in the Scientology Freezone.</p>
<p>Most of the current critics are critical of the church, not the philosophy, much of which they are probably unaware.  But what is of concern is that many critics, and the fellow in the street does not have a clue about what scientology is.  All one gets is rhetoric and a diatribe of, &#8220;its bad&#8221;, &#8220;Scientology kills people&#8221; or &#8220;scientologists eat babies&#8221; and other such claptrap. No, the church may participate in dubious activities but certainly any self respecting scientologist does not and scientology does not kill anyone.  The bald ignorant statements of, &#8220;they be all bad over there&#8221; is not a sound approach for adjudicating the merits or otherwise of any philosophy</p>
<p>How many people know what the ARC triangle represents, or what is a stable datum or what the eight dynamics are and they would not have a clue. How many people actually know what scientology is? Not very many! They do not even know the basics of real scientology. </p>
<p>But their criticism of the church is very different and very understandable.  In the eye&#8217;s of the freezone scientologist,  the church has committed the ultimate crime of suppressing the philosophy and, instead, imposed an authoritarian dictatorship totally at variance with the original philosophy.</p>
<p>THAT is why it is attacked so much.  Unfortunately the baby often gets thrown out with the bath water.</p>
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		<title>By: Benji</title>
		<link>http://laughingsquid.com/anonymous-vs-church-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-524925</link>
		<dc:creator>Benji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, it&#039;s nice to see some constructive responses (see enturbulation.org), and I do appreciate them. 

Firstly the majority of the participants base their arguments on unverified claims that have been circulated on the internet for some time, and are so widespread they assume them to be true, it does not work that way. If I ever were to author a report based on Wikipedia, or other various websites all mixed together it would not be even considered, no matter how eloquently or passionately I articulated it, which is where I think a lot of Anonymous are getting tripped up. 

Believing something to be true, and it actually being true often times can be very, very different things. Scientology bashing (yes, bashing) has not been remotely constructive, on the part of Anonymous, it has been hostile, juvenile, and baseless. Try posting any viewpoint other than anti-Scientological ones on the majority of the Anonymous-related forums and no matter how accurate, neutral, or otherwise well-put, it will be either removed, moved, or censored in various other ways, it is not open to discussion (on the internet). I have been fighting to make Wikipedia more neutral on this particular religion for a few years now, and I&#039;m losing, it&#039;s horribly skewed and not a valid source of almost any information.

Imagine you are a Scientologist, how would it feels to have people in front of your church screaming (literally, this was done) &quot;Scientology, we hate you!&quot;, or &quot;Scientology, f*ck you!&quot;.

Anonymous is a mindless (no original thought), baseless, group of both intelligent and not so intelligent people wasting their energy on hatred, anger, and worst of all recruiting others who happily hop on the bandwagon. Any critique of Scientology, founded or not can be applied to most other large religions and would stick, money, politics, whatever.

Blah!!! So much anger :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, it&#8217;s nice to see some constructive responses (see enturbulation.org), and I do appreciate them. </p>
<p>Firstly the majority of the participants base their arguments on unverified claims that have been circulated on the internet for some time, and are so widespread they assume them to be true, it does not work that way. If I ever were to author a report based on Wikipedia, or other various websites all mixed together it would not be even considered, no matter how eloquently or passionately I articulated it, which is where I think a lot of Anonymous are getting tripped up. </p>
<p>Believing something to be true, and it actually being true often times can be very, very different things. Scientology bashing (yes, bashing) has not been remotely constructive, on the part of Anonymous, it has been hostile, juvenile, and baseless. Try posting any viewpoint other than anti-Scientological ones on the majority of the Anonymous-related forums and no matter how accurate, neutral, or otherwise well-put, it will be either removed, moved, or censored in various other ways, it is not open to discussion (on the internet). I have been fighting to make Wikipedia more neutral on this particular religion for a few years now, and I&#8217;m losing, it&#8217;s horribly skewed and not a valid source of almost any information.</p>
<p>Imagine you are a Scientologist, how would it feels to have people in front of your church screaming (literally, this was done) &#8220;Scientology, we hate you!&#8221;, or &#8220;Scientology, f*ck you!&#8221;.</p>
<p>Anonymous is a mindless (no original thought), baseless, group of both intelligent and not so intelligent people wasting their energy on hatred, anger, and worst of all recruiting others who happily hop on the bandwagon. Any critique of Scientology, founded or not can be applied to most other large religions and would stick, money, politics, whatever.</p>
<p>Blah!!! So much anger :(</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://laughingsquid.com/anonymous-vs-church-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-524918</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benji, I appreciate what you are saying about religious persecution but if you actually research the Church of Scientology, you will see that it&#039;s a massive organized extortion scheme. The Church of Scientology is responsible for several deaths due to negligence, and has repeatedly threatened and harassed critics in the past. Have you ever heard of &quot;Fair Game&quot;? The CoS is a criminal organization and they do anything they can to suppress anyone who tries to reveal it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benji, I appreciate what you are saying about religious persecution but if you actually research the Church of Scientology, you will see that it&#8217;s a massive organized extortion scheme. The Church of Scientology is responsible for several deaths due to negligence, and has repeatedly threatened and harassed critics in the past. Have you ever heard of &#8220;Fair Game&#8221;? The CoS is a criminal organization and they do anything they can to suppress anyone who tries to reveal it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tree K.</title>
		<link>http://laughingsquid.com/anonymous-vs-church-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-524917</link>
		<dc:creator>Tree K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what the group has said, they very specifically *aren&#039;t* attacking the religion, but rather the organization and it&#039;s actions. They expressed support of groups like Free Zone, which followed the teachings of L. Ron Hubbard but didn&#039;t charge for them.

The majority of the protesters were masked because of the Church&#039;s &quot;Fair Game&quot; policy, where it is encouraged to relentlessly attack critics, including lawsuits, picketing, harassing phone calls to homes and employers, and generally causing &quot;...citizens to fear expressing their personal beliefs because they are concerned about retaliation...&quot;

There were many other issues that Anonymous wished to draw attention to, but little has been said to refute their claims; instead, cries of &quot;religious opression&quot; try to stifle their critics&#039; voices. Why not just answer the charges?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what the group has said, they very specifically *aren&#8217;t* attacking the religion, but rather the organization and it&#8217;s actions. They expressed support of groups like Free Zone, which followed the teachings of L. Ron Hubbard but didn&#8217;t charge for them.</p>
<p>The majority of the protesters were masked because of the Church&#8217;s &#8220;Fair Game&#8221; policy, where it is encouraged to relentlessly attack critics, including lawsuits, picketing, harassing phone calls to homes and employers, and generally causing &#8220;&#8230;citizens to fear expressing their personal beliefs because they are concerned about retaliation&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>There were many other issues that Anonymous wished to draw attention to, but little has been said to refute their claims; instead, cries of &#8220;religious opression&#8221; try to stifle their critics&#8217; voices. Why not just answer the charges?</p>
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		<title>By: Enrique</title>
		<link>http://laughingsquid.com/anonymous-vs-church-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-524915</link>
		<dc:creator>Enrique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 06:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benji... calling Scientology anything other than a cult or a club is a conclusion that has yet to be drawn ultimately. There are fine lines between cults and religious organizations, and I believe Scientology&#039;s methodologies, practices and structures should be analyzed prior to assuming they&#039;re a religion, thus making your claim of &quot;a moot point&quot;... well... moot point in itself, and the reasoning behind it even more moot. NFL teams are not religions (officially). 

Reality and fact takes more than projections, perception and acceptance. Meaning, you could go around convincing people you&#039;re a loaf of bread all day - it&#039;s not going to make you made of yeast, savvy?

That aside, these protests are an exercise of free speech - organized by a well formed group of individuals who have a creative presence on the Internet - which makes LaughingSquid a perfect platform to present this protest. Attacking the action of posting this article on the site and comparing it to being a white supremacist is absurd. The logic used in your comment is flawed, and the grounds of your argument are fundamentally subjective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benji&#8230; calling Scientology anything other than a cult or a club is a conclusion that has yet to be drawn ultimately. There are fine lines between cults and religious organizations, and I believe Scientology&#8217;s methodologies, practices and structures should be analyzed prior to assuming they&#8217;re a religion, thus making your claim of &#8220;a moot point&#8221;&#8230; well&#8230; moot point in itself, and the reasoning behind it even more moot. NFL teams are not religions (officially). </p>
<p>Reality and fact takes more than projections, perception and acceptance. Meaning, you could go around convincing people you&#8217;re a loaf of bread all day &#8211; it&#8217;s not going to make you made of yeast, savvy?</p>
<p>That aside, these protests are an exercise of free speech &#8211; organized by a well formed group of individuals who have a creative presence on the Internet &#8211; which makes LaughingSquid a perfect platform to present this protest. Attacking the action of posting this article on the site and comparing it to being a white supremacist is absurd. The logic used in your comment is flawed, and the grounds of your argument are fundamentally subjective.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Beale</title>
		<link>http://laughingsquid.com/anonymous-vs-church-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-524907</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Beale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, we really haven&#039;t been enforcing the anonymous thing much. That was added a while ago when we were having a lot of problems with comments. I&#039;m going to go ahead and remove that for one now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, we really haven&#8217;t been enforcing the anonymous thing much. That was added a while ago when we were having a lot of problems with comments. I&#8217;m going to go ahead and remove that for one now.</p>
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		<title>By: Benji</title>
		<link>http://laughingsquid.com/anonymous-vs-church-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-524906</link>
		<dc:creator>Benji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s really sad to see actions like this are so accepted. Especially by left-leaning websites and bloggers who talk about rights and acceptance. Regardless of your personal opinions or beliefs Anonymous is a very overt attack on religion; religious persecution. You can argue that Scientology is not a religion but that is a moot point, it&#039;s still something that a large group of people believe in. 

Glorifying protests such as these are the same to me as hailing white power protests. Yes they should be acknowledged but not encouraged as these are. I hope this doesn&#039;t continue to escalate, I know Scientologists that are concerned for their safety, that is going too far, when you cause citizens to fear expressing their personal beliefs because they are concerned about retaliation.

By the way, the first rule of posting a comment to this blog is that they are not anonymous, and the only comment on here so far is anonymous, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s really sad to see actions like this are so accepted. Especially by left-leaning websites and bloggers who talk about rights and acceptance. Regardless of your personal opinions or beliefs Anonymous is a very overt attack on religion; religious persecution. You can argue that Scientology is not a religion but that is a moot point, it&#8217;s still something that a large group of people believe in. </p>
<p>Glorifying protests such as these are the same to me as hailing white power protests. Yes they should be acknowledged but not encouraged as these are. I hope this doesn&#8217;t continue to escalate, I know Scientologists that are concerned for their safety, that is going too far, when you cause citizens to fear expressing their personal beliefs because they are concerned about retaliation.</p>
<p>By the way, the first rule of posting a comment to this blog is that they are not anonymous, and the only comment on here so far is anonymous, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/groups/anonymous-sf/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;San Francisco&lt;/a&gt; was one small part of the &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/groups/we-are-anonymous/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;global protest&lt;/a&gt;, which we have declared EPIC WIN.  Special applause to the ONE person who protested &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://forums.enturbulation.org/viewtopic.php?t=1625&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;$ci Tokyo&lt;/a&gt;.

The next global Anonymous protest is scheduled for &lt;strong&gt;March 15 2008&lt;/strong&gt;, Lafayette Hubbard&#039;s birthday.  There will be party hats and cake.  Expect us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://www.flickr.com/groups/anonymous-sf/" rel="nofollow">San Francisco</a> was one small part of the <a HREF="http://www.flickr.com/groups/we-are-anonymous/" rel="nofollow">global protest</a>, which we have declared EPIC WIN.  Special applause to the ONE person who protested <a HREF="http://forums.enturbulation.org/viewtopic.php?t=1625" rel="nofollow">$ci Tokyo</a>.</p>
<p>The next global Anonymous protest is scheduled for <strong>March 15 2008</strong>, Lafayette Hubbard&#8217;s birthday.  There will be party hats and cake.  Expect us.</p>
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